How Long Can The Fed Keep The Boom Going?

Authored by Thorstein Polleit via The Mises Institute,

The US bond market trades at a quite high valuation. For instance, the 10-year US Treasury bond presents a price earnings (PE) ratio of 43. In other words: It takes 43 years for the investor to recoup the bond’s purchase price through coupon payments; the bond market’s PE ratio even went up to 68 in June 2012 and July 2016, respectively.

At the same time, the PE ratio of the stock market is at 23, significantly higher than its long-term average of close to 17 for the period from 1973 to 2017. That said, the 10-year Treasury bond has become more hazardous compared to stocks. This is exactly what the PE ratio tells us: The higher (lower) the PE ratio, the higher (lower) the investor’s risk.

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How come that US bond valuations are that high? Many economists would argue that the reason is a “savings glut”: Relative to investments, savings balances are high, resulting in a substantially decreased market clearing interest rate. There is, however, another, much less sanguine explanation:

The Fed has pushed interest rates to artificially low levels. It has, in the wake of the financial and economic crisis of 2008/2009, lowered banks’ funding costs to basically zero, and, furthermore, purchased government and mortgage bonds on a grand scale. This, in turn, has inflated bond prices and, accordingly, forced bond yields down.

By now, the Fed has changed course. It has raised its interest rate three times since December 2015, bringing it to 1 percent. This, however, has not had a significant impact on long-term yields. 10-year US Treasury yields still trade at a low 2.4 percent. Is it possible that the Fed has lost its grip on long-term yields? Should the “savings glut theory” be proven right in the end?

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Unlikely. Long-term interest rates are, simply put, nothing but the average of the expected development of short-term interest rates over the maturity of the bond. That said, even if short-term rates go up, long-term bond yields can remain unchanged (or even decline) if, for instance, market agents expect short-term rate increases to be short-lived (or to be reversed soon).

The still very low long-term interest rates in the US may, therefore, tell us something important: Investors expect the Fed to keep rates at fairly low levels in what lays ahead; they expect the central bank to refrain from returning yields to levels formerly considered “normal.” Against this backdrop, the latest series of rates increases is merely seen as a cosmetic adjustment. 

Such an explanation would concur with the Austrian business cycle theory (ABCT). It implies that if and when unbacked paper, or: fiat, money is issued through bank credit expansion, market interest rates fall below their natural levels — the levels that would prevail if there was no bank credit expansion out of thin air.

This, in turn, sets an artificial economic upswing (boom) into motion. Consumption and investment go up. New jobs are created. The economy expands. Prices inflate. The boom, however, is built on sand. It turns into a bust as soon as market interest rates go up, that is if and when interest rates return to their natural levels.

To keep the boom going, the central bank must keep interest rates below their natural levels. It cannot raise them back to “normal.” First and foremost, higher interest rates would make the boom collapse. The credit market would collapse, stock and housing prices would tumble, and the financial system and the economy as a whole would go into a tailspin.

One may ask: Why is the Fed then raising rates then? Perhaps the Fed’s decision-makers think that the US economy has overcome the latest crisis and higher interest rates are economically justified. Others might wish to tighten policy for getting the short-term inflation adjusted interest rate out of negative territory.

Be it as it may, the disconcerting truth is this: Fed rate hikes will close the gap between the natural interest rate and the actual interest rate level. This, in turn, amounts to putting a brake on the boom, bringing it closer to bust. It is impossible to know with exactitude at what interest rate level the US economy would fall over the cliff.

One thing is fairly certain, though: The US economy, and with it the world economy, is caught between a rock and a hard place. Maybe the Fed’s current rate hiking spree will bring about the bust. Or the Fed refrains from raising rates further and keeps the boom going a little bit longer. Ludwig von Mises put the predicament as follows:

[T]he boom cannot continue indefinitely. There are two alternatives.

 

Either the banks continue the credit expansion without restriction and thus cause constantly mounting price increases and an ever-growing orgy of speculation, which, as in all other cases of unlimited inflation, ends in a "crack-up boom" and in a collapse of the money and credit system.

 

Or the banks stop before this point is reached, voluntarily renounce further credit expansion and thus bring about the crisis.

 

The depression follows in both instances.

Given current bond and stock market valuations, investors seem to be fairly confident that the Fed will succeed in keeping the boom going, that the central bank will not overdo it in terms of raising interest rates. And yes, perhaps central bankers have learned a great deal in recent years, having become true maestros in holding up the make believe world of fiat money.

The investor should be aware of the damages caused by fiat money — for instance, boom and bust. At the same time, he should not run for the exit prematurely: The fiat money system might be held up for longer than some may fear and others might hope, so that keeping inflation-resistant assets may be more rewarding than betting on an imminent system crash.

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Fitch Warns Baidu Faces “Default Risk” Due To Growing Shadow Banking Business

Less than a week after Moody’s downgraded China’s sovereign credit rating, prompting an unprecedented currency response by the PBOC which as noted earlier resumed its crusade against Yuan shorts by sending CNH overnight deposit rates as high as 65%, on Wednesday another rating agency, Fitch, took aim at what many consider the weakest link in China’s financial system: the nearly $9 trillion in shadow banking “assets”, of which roughly $4 billion are Wealth Management Products.

Just as surprising was the target of Fitch’s wrath: none other than China’s tech giant Baidu, which Fitch put on “negative watch” warning that the company’s financial services division faced increased risk of default as a result of its growing reliance on shadow banking in general and Wealth Management Products (WMPs) in particlar. As reported previously, China’s popular WMPs offer a higher yielding alternative to conventional financial instruments by bundling together investments into money market bonds, corporate loans and many other products, all of which are usually a mystery to the buyer. As of 2016, China had nearly 30 trillion yuan outstanding in WMPs.

Baidu, China’s dominant search engine, has not been immune to the scramble for funding optionality provided by shadow banking alternatives, and has been getting into the WMP game by rapidly expanding its Financial Services Group, which Fitch says is increasing Baidu’s overall business risk.

While Baidu is not under obligation to pay the returned target on these products, a failure could be potentially damaging to Baidu’s reputation, Fitch warned.

“As with Chinese banks, Baidu does not need to set aside large capital against potential defaults on its WMPs … WMPs have become an alternative form of financing for projects or investments that would not qualify for bank loans,” Fitch said.

This could lead to an increased risk of default or “shadow bank run”, since many of the bundled assets are of poor quality and would not qualify for bank loans. The WMP warning from Fitch came less than two weeks after Moody’s also put Baidu’s corporate debt on watch for a potential downgrade. WMPs have been behind the staggering surge in total assets of Baidu’s Financial Services Group, which have more than doubled to CNY25 billion in the period ended April 2017.

Fitch also cautioned that while Baidu’s credit risk compared well with western internet peers such as eBay and Expedia, it was worse than its domestic competitors in China’s tech trinity, Alibaba and Tencent.

Meanwhile, as a result of declining operating metrics and growing leverage, Baidu profits have continued to slide at the technology company in recent quarters. It has struggled with making the transition to the world of mobile internet, and as the FT reports, suffered a highly publicised scandal last year as a result of its reliance on revenues from medical advertising — some of which comes from dubious medical outfits.

Key highlights from the Fitch report:

Fitch Ratings has placed China-based Baidu, Inc.’s (Baidu) ‘A’ Long-Term Foreign- and Local-Currency Issuer Default Ratings (IDRs) and ‘A’ foreign-currency senior unsecured rating on Rating Watch Negative (RWN).

 

The RWN reflects Fitch’s belief that the rapid growth in Baidu’s financial services activities under its wholly owned Financial Services Group (FSG) has increased Baidu’s overall business risk.

 

The risk profile of the financial services activities is significantly higher than the risk profile of Baidu’s core internet services, such as search services, online video and transaction services.

 

The RWN will be resolved when management has provided further information on FSG’s expansion plans, risk control policies and procedures, and capital structure.

 

We may affirm the ratings at their current levels or downgrade the ratings, although any downgrade is likely to be a single notch. Our review will take into account Baidu’s strong net cash position, which provides a cushion to fund potential losses in the FSG.

 

KEY RATING DRIVERS

 

Elevated Business Risk: The FSG sells wealth management products (WMPs), which are mostly fixed-income products with short tenors of up to 12 months, and operates a micro-lending business.

 

Baidu’s wealth management business is similar to that of many Chinese banks and WMPs are part of the shadow banking system in China. As with Chinese banks, Baidu does not need to set aside large capital against potential defaults on its WMPs.

 

Baidu sells WMPs to retail investors and reinvests most of the funds via a third-party trust company into money market investments, other fixed-income investments and corporate borrowers.

 

Although we understand that Baidu is not legally bound to pay the target return on the WMPs to investors, we believe that the potential damage to the company’s reputation – should the WMPs fail to achieve the target returns or have enough liquidity to meet maturities – is large enough that Baidu will honour the obligations under the WMPs.

 

We also believe that the risk profile of the micro-lending business is also much higher than Baidu’s core business, as its loans and cash credits to consumers are unsecured.

 

Rapidly Growth in WMPs: Baidu’s FSG business has grown from assets of CNY12 billion at end-2016 to CNY25 billion at end-March 2017, and we expect both FSG’s WMP assets and micro-loan book to continue to expanding very rapidly at least in the short-term. WMPs continue to proliferate in China as there is abundant liquidity, but a scarcity of high-yielding assets in which to invest.

 

WMPs have become an alternative form of financing for projects or investments that would not qualify for bank loans.

 

A large exposure to WMPs may make Baidu vulnerable to asset-quality shocks, especially as loss events rise.

 

Contingent Loss-absorption Capacity: Our review will address Baidu’s capacity to absorb losses in the FSG operations, to ensure that if FSG underperformed, the additional funding required would not be a big enough drain on cash from Baidu’s core operations to threaten the ‘A’ rating.

 

We believe that Baidu’s net cash position will be increasingly important as it will be the primary source of contingent loss-absorption capacity. At end-2016, Baidu’s net cash totalled CNY23 billion, excluding payables to WMP customers of CNY7 billion, which were funds from retail investors entrusted to Baidu to invest in WMPs.

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Are Stock Traders Actually More Pessimistic Than Bond Traders?

Authored by Kevin Muir via The Macro Tourist blog,

As a former equity guy, it pains me to say that when the bond and equity markets are at odds, it usually pays to go with the bond guys. Let’s face it, the bond guys are better at math, often smarter, and less likely to fall for a story. Therefore I am a little at a loss regarding this next chart, as it appears the stock jockeys are more sanguine about rates than the fixed income crew.

Yesterday the SPDR Utility ETF closed at a new all-time high. With all the excitement regarding the FANG stocks, along with the manic chasing occurring in TSLA and bitcoin, you would figure that sentiment would be bubbling over. Shouldn’t investors be dumping utility stocks like University students returning on Thanksgiving weekend to their old high school sweethearts? Instead, we find investors gobbling up utilities like rates are never going higher.

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Between 2013 and 2016, the relationship between the inverted yield of the 30 year US Treasury and the SPDR XLU ETF held fairly tight. Yet since the Trump election, it has completely broken down.

Obviously, the correlation need not continue, and the two assets might simply head their own merry way.

But what if this divergence is due to recouple? Although I am a long term bond bear, it certainly feels like fixed income is itching to rally.

The Fed keeps tightening and flattening the yield curve.

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They seem intent on removing accommodation until something breaks. Ultimately, if they continue to tighten too aggressively, it will be extremely bond friendly.

An argument could certainly be made that the mad scramble into stocks is sending all sectors higher, and utilities are just being dragged along for the ride. Yet I can’t help but notice that many other sectors closed at one month lows yesterday.

Could it be utility stocks smell the coming economic slowdown ahead of the bond market? I am not sure, but if the economy does roll over, it will be a rare occasion when the stock traders were the more pessimistic bunch. Hey, there is a first for everything, including having the stock guys getting it more right than the bond traders.

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Man Arrested At Trump Hotel Near White House With Glock, Assault Rifle

 A man staying at the Trump Hotel in the 1100 block of Pennsylvania Avenue NW, five blocks from the White House, was arrested after guns were found inside his car, D.C. police report according to ABC. Police said he was charged with possession of firearms without a license and illegal possession of ammunition.

The police said 43-year-old Bryan Moles of Edinboro, Pennsylvania left a gun in plain view inside his car. After searching the vehicle, authorities say they also located another gun in the glove compartment and 90 rounds of ammo.  Edinboro has been charged with carrying a pistol without a license.

Authorities said in a report (see below) that officers acted on a tip about 1:50 a.m. and saw the weapon in plain view in the vehicle., which had been turned by the driver to a hotel valet. A Glock 23 was found in the glove box, police said, along with 30 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition and 60 rounds of .23 caliber ammunition.

No details on any possible motive were immediately provided.

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Trump Rages At “Sick” Kathy Griffin

Despite her apology – after her utlimate act of virtue signaling by holding up the blood-soaked head of the president backfiredPresident Trump and his family failed to find the humor in this heinous act.

First Donald Trump Jr. tweet-raged…

And this morning the President himself reacted…

 

We are sure this outrage will be seen as some badge of honor for the New Year's Eve counter-downer, but perhaps we should reflect on what this really means. As Martin Armstrong writes…

While Kathy Griffin apologizes for going tooooo far, that is obviously only because of the flack she got for even doing this photo.

 

If it were Obama, she would be called a racist. The mere simple act of doing something like this is exposing just how dangerous the future truly is. We have the left who thinks it is their God given right to suppress if not kill anyone who disagrees with them. I for one am starting to lean for the break up of the United States and all the leftists please move to the left of the country and anyone else who wants freedom from these insane people, move to the right.

 

They never heard of freedom and that means to enjoy your own life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without being told what to do by people who want to rule the world their way. I have always had a simple motto – live and let live. I ask for nothing but freedom from oppression. Tyranny is what these people preach. It is their way or no way. We need to separate or there will be blood in the streets.

 

It’s very simple. I fully agree with Patrick Henry. They have no right to subjugate the 50% they seem to hate so much.

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Frontrunning: May 31

  • Trump Faces Instability as Russia Probe Expands to Inner Circle (WSJ)
  • Huge bomb in sewage tanker kills at least 80, wounds hundreds in Afghan capital (Reuters)
  • Russia fires cruise missiles at Islamic State targets from Mediterranean (Reuters)
  • Trump blasts Russia probe, urges testimony from former adviser Page (Reuters)
  • Activist probing factories making Ivanka Trump shoes in China arrested (Reuters)
  • Franken: ‘Everything Points’ to Collusion Between Trump, Russia  (BBG)
  • This Is What the Demise of Oil Looks Like (BBG)
  • Oil Slumps on Investor Skepticism Over Output Cuts (WSJ)
  • Euro-Area Inflation Slows More Than Forecast Before ECB Meeting (BBG)
  • Masayoshi Son Is Betting $100 Billion to Conquer the 24th Century  (BBG)
  • The Billionaire Gadfly in Exile Who Stared Down Beijing (NYT)
  • Morgan Stanley’s 16,000 Human Brokers Get Algorithmic Makeover  (BBG)
  • Michael Kors gives weak forecast, to shut some stores (Reuters)
  • Tillerson’s Enigmatic Chief of Staff Wields Power, Not the Spotlight  (BBG)
  • South Korea defense ministry ‘intentionally dropped’ THAAD units in report: Blue House (Reuters)
  • Top to Bottom: Pay for 500 CEOs (WSJ)
  • Goldman Sachs Gave Big Hand to Venezuela ‘Hunger Bonds’ Movement (BBG)
  • What Gap? Female CEOs Earn More Than Male Chiefs (WSJ)
  • Bain Doubles Down on Risky Gymboree Bet Even as Bankruptcy Looms (BBG)
  • Another Warning Sign Flashes for Subprime Auto Loans (BBG)
  • Injunction Request Aims to Stop German Role in ECB’s Bond Buying (WSJ)
  • Uber Fires Engineer in Bid to Contain Legal Battle With Google (WSJ)

 

Overnight Media Digest

WSJ

– The Pentagon on Tuesday conducted a successful test of a system designed to shoot down an intercontinental ballistic missile, U.S. defense officials said, a demonstration that came amid rising tensions over North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. on.wsj.com/2rmu7qA

– Uber Technologies Inc fired its top driverless-car executive Anthony Levandowski, nine months after buying his startup for $680 million, in a bid to contain an ongoing legal battle with Google parent Alphabet Inc. on.wsj.com/2rmlUmy

– Former national security adviser Michael Flynn will turn over documents from his businesses to the Senate Intelligence Committee, according to a person familiar with the matter, easing the possibility of a protracted legal standoff over his cooperation with the panel’s investigation. on.wsj.com/2rD51oy

– Whirlpool Corp plans to ask the U.S. government to impose broad barriers on imports of household washing machines, part of the company’s efforts to fight what it calls unfair trade practices by South Korea-based rivals spanning half a dozen countries, company executives said late on Tuesday. on.wsj.com/2r9V28N

– Two former Theranos Inc directors said they did not follow up on public allegations that the Silicon Valley blood-testing firm was relying on standard technology rather than its much-hyped proprietary device for most tests, according to newly released court documents. on.wsj.com/2rfLYgW

 

FT

Scottish National Party (SNP) leader Nicola Sturgeon, at the launch of her party’s election manifesto, warned that a vote for Labour in the June 8 election would let the Conservatives in “by the back door” and that only SNP could “keep the Tories in check”.

U.S. coatings maker PPG Industries Inc said on Tuesday that the Dutch Authority for the Financial Markets did not grant its request to extend a June 1 deadline for making a tender offer for Dutch paint maker Akzo Nobel NV.

Activist investor Cevian Capital spent $1 billion amassing a 5.6 percent stake in Sweden’s Ericsson and said it sees significant potential in the struggling mobile telecom equipment maker.

The European Commission is advocating for sovereign debt from across the eurozone to be bundled into a new financial instrument and sold to investors as part of a proposal to strengthen the single currency area.

 

NYT

– Federal Reserve governor Lael Brainard told the New York Association for Business Economics that the Fed should raise its benchmark interest rate “soon”, despite new evidence that inflation remains below the level the Fed desires. Brainard’s comments reinforced expectations that the Fed will raise rates in mid-June at its next meeting. nyti.ms/2r9VXWV

– A labor activist who had been working undercover at a Chinese factory that makes shoes for Ivanka Trump and other brands has been detained by the police. Hua Haifeng, who was working on behalf of the advocacy group China Labor Watch, was detained on suspicion of illegal eavesdropping. nyti.ms/2r9GMN5

– Scott Pelley is leaving his anchor role with “CBS Evening News”, a position he has filled since 2011. Pelley will continue his duties at “60 Minutes” and devote more time to that role but no replacement has been chosen for him. nyti.ms/2r9EvBv

– Uber said it had fired Anthony Levandowski, a star engineer brought in to lead the company’s self-driving automobile efforts, and who was accused of stealing trade secrets when he left a job at Google. nyti.ms/2r9TsDJ

Canada

** Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Alberta Premier Rachel Notley declared Tuesday that Ottawa’s approval of the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion will not be derailed by a pact between the NDP and Green Party in British Columbia, raising the spectre of high-stakes political and court battles. tgam.ca/2r77KFm

** The Public Sector Pension Investment Board said on Tuesday that it will take a 40 percent stake in the operating company that runs Puerto Rico’s largest flight hub, Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan. tgam.ca/2qFd4fD

** After two years of independent review, the Canadian government unveiled proposed amendments to the Employment Standards Act and Labor Relations Act Tuesday, including a rise in the minimum wage to C$15 an hour by 2019. tgam.ca/2r7TLil

NATIONAL POST

** Granite REIT in response to the claims made by FrontFour Capital and Sandpiper Group Granite said Tuesday that a letter was required to help unit holders “see through the dissidents’ disingenuous arguments” and to set the record straight. bit.ly/2sdiYGM

** On Tuesday the province of Ontario returned to the market with a 100 million pound ($128.25 million) floating rate offering. The terms for that offering — it matures on Nov 20, 2020 — were the same as what the province paid for a 400 million pound offering done earlier this month. bit.ly/2rTDAGE

** Canada’s political fundraising rules are getting another overhaul, as the Liberal government is set to introduce a bill that will force all parties to follow stricter standards on transparency in fundraising events. bit.ly/2rSn0aj

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Trump Has Reportedly Decided To Pull Out Of Paris Climate Accord

In yet another blow to President Obama’s utopian legacy, Axios is reporting that two sources with direct knowledge of the decision confirm President Trump has made his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord.

Having tweeted last week – after upsetting Merkel et al. at the G7…

It appears Trump has made his decision. Axios notes that details on how the withdrawal will be executed are being worked out by a small team including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. They’re deciding on whether to initiate a full, formal withdrawal — which could take 3 years — or exit the underlying United Nations climate change treaty, which would be faster but more extreme.

Trump’s decision reportedly follows a letter from 22 Republican Senators (including Mitch McConnell) that called for a clean exit had reinforced Trump’s instincts to withdraw, and the president had been telling confidants over the past week that he was going to pull out.

“Because of existing provisions within the Clean Air Act and others embedded in the Paris Agreement, remaining in it would subject the United States to significant litigation risk that could upend your Administration’s ability to fulfill its goal of rescinding the Clean Power Plan. Accordingly, we strongly encourage you to make a clean break from the Paris Agreement.”

Trump joins Nicaragua and Syria as the 3 nations that are not supportive of the climate accord, and as Axios concludes, pulling out of Paris is the biggest thing Trump could do to unravel Obama’s climate legacy. It sends a combative signal to the rest of the world that America doesn’t prioritize climate change and threatens to unravel the ambition of the entire deal.

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Tucker Carlson Immolates Suspected Antifa Bike Lock Attacker’s Activist Attorney

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Last night Tucker Carlson danced circles around Dan Siegel, the civil rights attorney representing Berkeley bike lock attack suspect Eric Clanton who may be facing more than 40 years in state prison. Siegel, an activist lawyer, former Oakland mayoral candidate, and community organizer who led a moment of silence for  ‘brother comrade’ Hugo Chavez in 2013, thought he could try lawyer-talking his way around Tucker’s questions. Nope. Carlson went in with brows at full drop and Comrade Siegel was artfully vanquished.

During an April 15th demonstration at Civic Center Park in Berkeley, a man identified by researchers on the website 4chan as Diablo Valley College professor Eric Clanton allegedly hit Trump supporter Sean Stiles over the head with a u-shaped bike lock. Clanton was arrested last week and his apartment was searched – turning up a cache of Antifa paraphernalia, U-locks, sunglasses, and facial coverings.

It looks like Siegel’s 3 pronged defense will be to try and discredit 4chan, say Clanton wasn’t at the event, and peddle the notion that an off-camera provocation justifies attempted murder with a bike lock.

Siegel: “It hasn’t even proven that he was present at that event, much less that he hit anyone, much less that he did so without justification.”

And of course, what argument with a leftist would be complete without bringing up Hitler:

Siegel: “These alt-right people were using Nazi and KKK salutes, waving a flag that has Nazi and KKK symbols on it. People didn’t like that.”

You are, without really looking into it, are assuming that these 4chan people have produced some legitimate evidence of an assault.

‘These 4chan people’?

Siegel’s poor grasp on 4chan tells me he doesn’t know what he’s dealing with. First of all – this is the ‘Nazi flag’ he’s referring to:

The symbols on the flag are the name of the Egyptian frog-diety “Kek” and the 4chan website logo. And here’s video of Siegel acting all confused about it.

  

Meanwhile, one of the ‘Nazis’ at the rally appears to be an Antifa member in disguise.

4chan doesn’t mess around

When they aren’t exposing disgusting Burger King employees and driving Trump’s #1 Twitter troll into quit Twitter and leave the country, researchers on the site have made headlines geolocating a terrorist training camp which resulted in an airstrike on ISIS, harassed Shia LaBeouf to the point of melting down in a bowling alley, and perhaps most notably – helped Donald Trump win the 2016 election by deciphering tens of thousands of emails released by Wikileaks in amazing time. And they’re still at it – working furiously on the Seth Rich investigation and other swamp related matters.

And ol’ Siegel doesn’t keep up with the news

Trying his best to paint the ‘alt-right’ as violent, Dan Siegel brought up the stabbing in Portland, Oregon – in which the attacker was initially mis-reported as an alt-right nutcase, only to be revealed as a Bernie Sanders supporter.

Siegel: Now, we’ve been at these rallies where these alt-rightists have stabbed people. We had the incident in Portland Oregon just the other day, so for you to suggest that these right wingers are peaceful supporters of the First Amendment is ridiculous.

Carlson: But that’s totally been debunked! The guy who’s been charged with the two murders in Portland was not an alt-right guy, he was not a Trump supporter. He was a Bernie Sanders supporter and a Jill Stein reporter.

Siegel: Oh come on! He gets up in court today and says I’m not a terrorist, I’m a patriot!

Carlson: It’s on his Facebook page! Maybe you should do a little research before you go popping off on television. It’s his statement, not mine. It’s not a close call – he says “I did not vote for Trump…” …but to lay it at the feet of Trump supporters is just wrong, by his own description!

Speaking of stabby people – I guess Dan Siegel forgot about the concealable knives Antifa was selling for their rallies.

All in all, it was quite the cucking by Carlson – who left Eric Clanton’s attorney a bit worse for wear by the end of the interview. Oh, and it looks like someone from 4chan may have gotten to Seigel’s Wikipedia page.

See video below:

  

Anyone else think of this guy?

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