(Republican) president from 1981 to 1989, during a 1980 debate: “Open the borders both ways.”
(Republican) president from 2017 to the present, this morning: “We will close the Border permanently if need be.”
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Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, Peter Suderman and Matt Welch today tackle some of the thorniest questions in our country’s never-ending immigration debate: Does President Donald Trump have a point about the 1,700 percent jump in asylum seekers? Does Hillary Clinton have a point about the left abetting the populist right through failures of both policy and engagement? Do high immigration levels lead to the very degradation of social trust that certain people (cough, cough) keep yammering on about?
Along the way we also discuss balloon murder, Steven Pinker’s hair, and our own insufferable Thanksgiving political conversations.
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Relevant links from the show:
“‘We Will Close the Border Permanently If Need Be,’” by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
“Trump’s Border Lawlessness,” by Shikha Dalmia
“Donald Trump Fails to Confront the Truth About the Migrant Caravan,” by Shikha Dalmia
“Why the Obsession with the Migrant Caravan, Mr. President?” by Nick Gillespie
“The Factual and Rhetorical Silliness of Family Separation Whataboutism,” by Matt Welch
“Republicans vs. Reagan,” by Matt Welch
“Ideology Is Out, Identity Is In,” by Nick Gillespie
“Steven Pinker Loves the Enlightenment,” by Nick Gillespie
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